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WBO2 for Dummies

 
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ben_95sl1






PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 3:10 am    Post subject: WBO2 for Dummies Reply with quote

Here's the currently available and affordable wideband options...

They vary in price, features (displays, NB output, etc) and the DIY-WB does not come assembled.

Though the MS was setup to be used with DIY-WB, any of the kits will interface fine with MS as they all offer the same 0-5V output signal. Keep in mind, you should keep your stock PCM happy with some sort of narrow band (0-1v) output...so either keep a stock O2 hooked up to your stock pcm, or remove it and use the 0-1V output available on the AEM and the newest Techedge WBO2, NOT available on the DIY-WB.

DIY-WB Project (~$200US for all the parts, needs to be assembled)
http://www.diy-wb.com/

Techedge WBO2 ($?)
http://www.techedge.com.au/

AEM Wideband UEGO Controller (~$350US)
http://www.aempower.com/product_ems.asp
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grumpy






PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so now that Ian has sold me on the megasquirt, i am going to need wb O2. but after all of the reading that i did about the megasquirt and the wb-o2, i now know how brandon feels about snakes badgers and mushrooms. what exactly do i need to buy so that i can use the datalog function with the megasquirt? if i just get the AEM unit, will that work fine? i have heard people complain about the techedge not working, is there some sort of reliability problem with those. also, is this one of those plug and play type of things if i get the AEM (as far as me not having to modify anything to get it to work with the MS)? sorry about all of the questions, but i told you guys that i don't speak "smart people."

--grumpy Twisted Evil
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ben_95sl1






PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aem has standard 0-5v output that is used on all wb units, but also has additional 0-1v nb type output for stock pcms...

you wire the 0-5v output from the aem controller into the MS...piece of cake. It can datalog all inputs and outputs.
You can get rid of the stock nb o2 sensor, and use the additional 0-1v output on the aem to go into the stock pcm to keep it happy...so you just need one o2 sensor, the wb one...except for those with the extra post cat o2 sensor, you still keep that...

you want to keep the pcm happy, don't you?

Ben
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SCdyne






PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2003 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also Let me clear some Techedge 2.0v issues up.
90% of my problems were with my cable I built and 8% screwed up 1 LED and 2% ignorance.

I tested the cable with a probe that was too large for the connector. It seperated the prongs inside of the connector too far apart and they didn't connect the sensor and cable correctly.

This along with my one screwed up LED 'led' to a whole bunch of problems that I created from not knowing it already worked.

Assuming things were wrong I started messing with resistors, solder joints and everything else until my perfectly working WB02 controller was screwed all to hell and back.


The other issue was that Techedge had a calibration issue with the controller that sent it into an over-heated fault mode, which lead me to post the question about how a N/A saturn had hotter EGTs than a Turbo one.

I updated the cal of the controller and it works like a charm now.

Would I do the DIY controller again? HELL NO, would I get the Techedge over that of the AEM? Probably.
Techedge has a software interface that allows for updates and can adjust with the change of O2 sensors. There 2 totally different sensors you can use for it also (VW one and GM/Saturn one)
The AEM only uses the GM/Saturn one.
The techedge has a Tach input, 3 0-5v inputs and 3 thermalcouples too. It also has a display and 0-1v NB simulated output.


While it was a bit of a hassle to get working, I should end up being the only person to have had to deal with all of the problems.
The DIY unit is a bit of a task, but the re-built one is sweet.

If you are going MegaSquirt then it's a matter of choice, but for stand alone WBO2 the Techedge is better.
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BC.Live Wire






PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WBo2 --- wide band o2 sencer

MS --- megasquert

DIY-WB --- do it yourself - wide band o2

http://www.zeitronix.com/Products/zt2/zt2.htm

http://wbo2.com/2b0/default.htm

http://www.bnecustoms.com/plx_wide_band.htm

a cheeper place for the PLX Wbo2

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/support/manual/LM-1_Manual.htm

http://www.roadraceengineering.com/ems.htm


Brandon
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Tom






PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2003 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.plxdevices.com
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nitrofumesrule






PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2003 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats a nice alternitive Tom, that should help some people out. I was wondering when someone would come out with a converter to use the Autometer guage to display WB info. Cool stuff.
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Titan






PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am completely satisfied with the techedge. Love the out put and the ability to data log. I can log 3 egt ports, rpm, map, and wideband output on the same graph. Street tuning became so much eaiser...
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