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Rear-Vue






PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 5:50 am    Post subject: for starters nos kit. Reply with quote

hey

well my buddy has a 10lb tank with all the stuff i need braded lines blah blah wet kit and a bunch of diff nossels and such. i think i will buy it off of him. its on a 95 seville with the northstar. he is getting a bigger system later he said. so i might buy it.

but first thing is i need a a/f gauge, oil pressure gauge, and widband o2 and i figure i will just use the widband off the escort for now. until i can afford a good widband. i will be only running a 55shot the biggest (for now, work myself up from 35.. etc..)

ig ot a sohc auto.. none tbi.. so i got the 100hp. and full bolt ons. (except header)

should i get a 2.25inch mandrel bent exhaust or just stick with my 2.25inch crush bent exhaust? and save that $$ towards soemthing else?

gonna get a compression testa nd leak down test in the next few days. and see how i am running.


so base kit nos
escort o2 sensor
a/f gauge (proball autometer or faze)
oil pressure gague (autometer or faze)
1 dual gauge pod bracket thing..
run premium gas.

that sound good for a starter?
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Bigbadbert






PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You dont necessarily need an oil pressure guage. I hear that autometer guages suck, but I dont know for a fact. Something else to think about is colder plugs. With the exhaust, you might wanna think about bumping it up to 2 1/4" mandrel. Any larger on teh SOHC and you might actually lose power when youre not spraying.
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Nikongod






PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the escort never came with a wideband sensor.

otherwise it sound snice.

even the nbo2 will work for a nitrous system.

simple pseudocode:

if
nboutput<=0.7V
then
you or your engine=fuct, period
end
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TheSaturnKid






PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL.

Dyno time my friend, 95% of them monitor o2 with a wide band setup. Its not as expensive as youd think either, look around...
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Titanium






PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I hear that autometer guages suck

I've heard nothing but praise

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and save that $$ towards soemthing else?

DOHC
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Rear-Vue






PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bah dohc. gonna get one sooner or later nitrous is just to keep me happy until i can get real money.. saved and such. then might do a swap or omething.


ok so what would you recommend for a starter kit?

also i heard about the oil temp gaugue cause if something is fuckingup during spraying the oil temp (or was it pressure) is the first thing to go up and you know when to shut down to not kill the engine. kinda like a backup. for the a/f widband

so i though the widband (3 wire 1 headed) escort sensor was good to use for nitrous?? or is is just a heated narrow band sensor thats better then the narrow we got now on saturns?

and the exhaust i think i will see how it feels with the crush bend first. and then go to mandrel.. like you said i think it will be on the event horizon of beging up big and not enough back pressure..

i dont plan to spray that often just when highway passing and at the track and such. which wont be that often.

you guys sudgest high flow cat? i got the oem one still and i am at 100,000miles. and also i got v-power plugs as we speak.. or was it G-power... gonna check today. and its .35 right for nitrous? not .40 to gap them.
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TheSaturnKid






PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You will spray more often than that. Trust me, I was only running a 25 shot and used it WAY to often for it being untuned.

The Nitrous Works has a new kit out. Its the universal wet EFI. I "had" that for a week. It works well. It works on any vehicle with 40 PSI of fuel pressure. Whats so great about it you ask? Its 100$ cheaper than an nos or nx kit.
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95satsl1






PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aight, the difference between the escort O2 sensor and ours is the escort is a 3 wire heated, its still a narrow band sensor. If I were you I wouldn't waste my money on an autometer a/f gauge, there other gauges are good but the a/f gauge just looks like something that belongs in nightriders car because is bounces back and forth way to fast and has too few LEDs to get a good idea of where your at. I'd get the halmeter if your going n/b O2 or if you want a true wideband setup get something like the AEM UEGO system, several members here are running that and seem to like it alot. Also, on the oil pressure guage I have one and I like it because it'll tell you sooner if theres something wrong with the oil in the car (say empty etc) than the stock idiot light that only tells you that there is no oil in the car. As for the plugs I'd definately recomend getting the one step colder NGK's, you can pick em up at any Autozone for like ten dollars or so, they're the BKR6E-11's. One last thing, on the jets for the northstar I would suggest checking to make sure that there the same size for your application since shot sizes and jets can vary slightly from engine to engine.
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KruxSC2






PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

95satsl1 wrote:
One last thing, on the jets for the northstar I would suggest checking to make sure that there the same size for your application since shot sizes and jets can vary slightly from engine to engine.


With Nitrous Express the jets are universal. The shot sizes varies with jet per car but an "Import" 35 jet is no different than a "GM" 35 Jet. and by 35 I mean jet size not HP shot size.
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Rear-Vue






PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

anyone have any prices on a

hamlet 30 and a escort sensor.

i want to be safe but not spend f my budjet on my gauges and widband.

i heard the hamlet autometer was one of the best. and i believe POC recommended it with the escort sensor. on one of the FAQ of nawwwwssing.

and ya.. i probally will be using it alot.. knowing me.. hmm i want to pass this guy.. *arm.. pllusssh.. lol... awww its gonna be fun..

good thing for me. a 10lbs bottle will cost me 75 tax in. to fill.. thats probally expensive for you guys.. but its cheap for me. 5 bux a pouns i think or something like that. 5-6 dollars.

i think i might go take a look at summits stuff there selling and such? and check out that kit you got there saturnkid.
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poc301






PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its a HALMETER, not a hamlet Smile

The Halmeter AF30 retails for over a hundred bucks new. Try Ebay.
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Rear-Vue






PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok well according to you Poc


get that baby, and the escort sensor. to take care of that problem.

and then just now a nitrous kit.. hmm can you just buy a bottle?.. i am thinking if that one guy has that sneeky pete kit still i will just buy that and buy a larger bottle. or look on e-bay for soemthing..

oh and nother thing i couldnt find. or get clerification on. an automatic can you spray thru the gears? or do i have to let off between shifts..??
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TheSaturnKid






PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On al smaller shot, you are OK to spray through gears. Worry about it if you go higher than a 35 shot. Even a 50 might be ok...?

My auto was happy spraying through the shift on the 25. Didnt even belch or flinch.

The kit worked great. It "may" be for sale soon. Depends on whether or not summit will accept my return or not.
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Rear-Vue






PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm thats good to know.

i will probally run a 35 or a 25 like you until i get comfortable and figure out the whole air/fuel and blah blah stuff.. then bump it up to a 50 or 55.. and see how my car likes it and then maybe go to 75... but more liely iwill stick with a 35-50 shot. unless i get forged internals.


question should i forget them halmeter af30. and just get a afc ?? cause whats the points of just seeing how bad lean or rich i am when i cant do anything about. (i think...)

some people i believe are running afc and widband or escorts.. so you can tune on the fly right?

but i think a/f would work for now.. unless i can get a afc for cheap.
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Nikongod






PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the hallmeter, and s-afc do diferent things.

the hallmeter monitors o2 sensor outpout.

the s-afc changes map sensor to teh computer.
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